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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
There is another way with the IRS where they don’t classify you as a church, by doing an SS-4 for a W-8BEN purpose only and foreign express trust (in other words without the United States), then you can get a tax exempt from them as well without the 508c1a church label….If it were me this is how I would do it, because because it is for a…
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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
I also have recorded agreement with the township and county that they have no constitutional authority to levy a direct tax (property tax). So I have tons of evidence, just need to really take the next step.
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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
As long as you comprehend what the form states in the instructions and manual on what it “assumes”… which I believe the video is getting at… if you are obtaining the tax-exempt status using the 508c1a, the code she went through in the video on how the IRS defines when the form can be used. How to meet the criteria to be tax-exempt. Which…
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Michelle replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
My time is not free.
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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
yes and no… because it is commerce or trust law if it is a distinct legal existence… It’s not the same as staying on the private man to man.
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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
You can remove yourself from property taxes with a land patent and equity.
Doing the 508c1a makes it the all caps and gives and EIN. Thus it may be “private” but not the same as truly private. You are still banking on the public side. And as a 508c1a the definition of church still applies. I am not saying it is a completely bad idea, I am…
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Anne replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
My land patent was free because I did it myself…
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Michelle replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
I found the video very unclear and misleading, especially after going through many hours of research on private foreign trusts, ecclesiastic foreign ministries, etc. And she is selling stuff. So not particularly reliable.
I suppose the crux is that I am not at all afraid of the IRS. They are not a governmental agency. They do not have any…
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Michelle replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
A distinct legal existence does not obligate it’s jurisdiction. A distinct legal existence is the claim about the agreement (or contract) that formed the entity. Ie, “who, when, where, & why”. Without the United States is a distinct legal existence and not subject to codes or statutes.
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Michelle replied to the discussion Law & Sovereignty in the forum Law & Sovereignty a year ago
Okay,
Well I am not requesting to be a church nor to register.
The EIN is not registration and does not set a status for my entity… what does set the status is custom and conduct. So the conduct is what will determine the status of the entity, ultimately. And this doesn’t effect whether it can be public or private.
I suppose you could argue…
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