Okay,

Well I am not requesting to be a church nor to register.

The EIN is not registration and does not set a status for my entity… what does set the status is custom and conduct. So the conduct is what will determine the status of the entity, ultimately. And this doesn’t effect whether it can be public or private.

I suppose you could argue…

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Here is the list of what an IRS Church must have….the first one is distinct legal existence, thus you must comply to legal statutes, ordinances, and codes – unlike a lawful ministry

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-religious-organizations/definition-of-church

There are ways to open bank accounts without the EIN and other ways to correct property taxes without doing a 508c1a…. i haven’t done it but am learning about this and know people (second hand) that private bank

I know this is about PMA’s but it is just going over the law for 508c1a which a PMA cannot be a 508c1a it is very thorough to know what you are accepting as a 508c1a

So when you request a determination to be a church to get an EIN… you then just created the ALL CAPS entity, it is an option and then you can be tax exempt in such a way…. but you would also have to “conform” to the laws of a Church… it is not necessarily private anymore….It’s their definition of Church and whatever laws they create…

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Hello Anne,

thank you for your thoughts!
I don’t have any status or classification for my private ministry. That would not be determined until we send in the forms requesting a tax exempt determination letter. We are not a 508 nor a PMA.
My question is, what implications are there? Because churches are not audited. Churches are also exempt…

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Not easy in Michigan… it is a bit state dependent from what I comprehend. We have had our land patent recorded since 2022 and still working on trying getting them to correct errors. I feel like we are getting so close, I keep getting insight but no resolution as of yet.

From my comprehension and study, you do not want to “register” as a 508c1a…..other PMA’s have done this and it has caused issues down the road. It’s been awhile since I have reviewed this since we did our PMA a few years ago now…. but this is how I see it and maybe the easiest way to explain…. you are filling out THEIR paperwork to…

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